What bonobos teach us about choosing better men | Rantzerker 246
What bonobos teach us about choosing better men | Rantzerker 246
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Join Alison and Karen as they react to the latest claims made by bag-grabber cluster Behemoth Manifestelle as she explains how we shouldn't live like lobsters, we should ,live like the bonobos
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Manifestelle
rate of violence in bonobo society.
rate of violence in bonobo society.
Now, she's right that
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bonobo females win contests with males and are actually a lot more aggressive towards males. And bonobo males are less aggressive towards female bonobos. But there is a tremendous amount of malemale aggression in bonobo society. In fact, more than chimp society. And the overall rate of aggression in bonobo society is substantially greater. And if you remove what might be outliers like um chimps --5:11-- killing other chimps usually for probably gross infractions of the the hierarchy and social norms or or just in warfare or in warfare intertribal tribal intertribal warfare. And why is there intertribal warfare with chimps? Because they have they're in more resource uh there's more resource competition in the regions that they're they exist in. Um, that's not why. That's not why. But, um, no, it's not. It's not. It's because there's more uh there's more intraexual cooperation between chimpanzeee males than there is between bonobo males, right? So, the intertribal warfare doesn't occur doesn't generally occur in lean seasons where everybody's like hungry um and resources are scarce, right? because everybody's just focused on getting as much extracting as much food out of the territory that they have and they're too weak to go to war, right? It's when they're fat and bored that that they go to war, right? Yeah.
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So, it it's a little bit more complicated than saying it's like a resource competition. If it is a resource competition, it's it's kind of that that evolutionary psychology kind of explanation like male lions don't understand that sex makes babies and they don't understand that they want to make their own babies, right? But they still kill all of the babies of of the previous male when they take over a pride because it and they don't know that it's going to throw all the females into estrus and they're all going to be willing to mate with him, right? Um they don't they don't understand that. They're not they're not making a calculation, right? It's just that the males that male lions that do that, uh, they pass on more copies of their genes. And the female lions that kill their, uh, small litters, one, two cubs, um, and then just go into heat right away again and try again and have a large larger litters typically, right?
They end up having producing more offspring over time, over their lifetime. And presumably the female lions that felt kill other lioness's cubs also get more of the lion's share of resource. Yeah. No. So I mean it's it's like well I mean there's no lion's share of resources. The lionesses do all the hunting but um they they get they get the lion's share. Actually the lioness's share of the genes passed on. The reason why the lions, the male lions are the size they are is because they there's different types of prey to exploit during different seasons. So they keep
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their size in order to be able to muscle down larger prey. That's because that's because a lot of lions are on their own.
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