Tuesday, January 10, 2006

I read the news today oh boy

All this just goes to show that Gerry has not taken in the implications of Shamir's line-crossing activities, his defense of David Duke, etcetera.Which does not mean I share Duke's views, past or present, I hasten to add. My view is much closer to that of Italian fascism, which it is commonly accepted was neither racist nor anti-semitic until 1943, when against the advice of all its veteran theoreticians it attempted an anti-semitic policy in order to gain Hitler's support during its military collapse. See de Felice, seriatim, in extenso, etc (his "The Jews in Fascist Italy" at 770 pp. is simply the introduction to his five volume biography of Mussolini).Another book which might interest people who are seriously studying the question of anti-semitism is this:"Race and the Third Reich" by Christopher M. Hutton, Polity Press (UK), 2005ISBN 0-7456-3176-2 (hb)ISBN 0-7456-3177-0 (pb)subtitle, very informative : "Linguistics, Racial Anthropology, and Genetics in the Dialectic of Volk"Anonymous 01.09.06 - 2:04 pm #

strange, it lost my IDRowan Berkeley 01.09.06 - 2:35 pm #

What's wrong with David Duke?Is he an American traitor like Abramoff and many other Zionists who are on record for spying or helping Zionists' occupation of Palestine?Well one thing is for sure - He went to Syria and called Israeli bluff - Islamic Iran and Syria are threat to the Zionist entity.Shaukat 01.09.06 - 3:12 pm #

Ok, Shaukat, the problem is this : the way that the generally left-of-centre Jewish clicque have things set up in the USA and UK, it is permitted to compaign against zionism on a sort of anti-nationalism-in-general ticket, but the moment you show any signs of not supporting anti-nationalism as such, you are tarred as a 'fascist' and lose all their support. The concealed whammy here is the fact that zionism itself feeds off the left-of-centre worldview, in that it can always justify itself as the last resort of the Jews against the anti-Semitic Right.This creates a double-bind. The reason of course is that anti-Semitism is NOT the same as racism in general, nor is it necessarily connected to Imperialism in the way that the Left pretends. The anti-Semitic Right is NOT the same thing as the racist Right in general, and classic anti-Semitism was in some ways a manifestation of anti-Imperialism itself, in that it was felt that the Jews were the real Imperialists.It is indeed an anomaly - if only because western Imperialism was managed if not pioneered by Jews in the first place, who are quite capable of presenting themselves as the ultimate 'white men' when it suits their purpose - I refer you back to the long quotation from Disraeli I posted last week.Rowan Berkeley 01.09.06 - 3:29 pm #

gerry, if you can't tolerate discussion, I can only say I am sorry for you. I don't agree by far with much written here, I hate and loathe David Duke, so when Shaukut puts that up, I can only say, let him defend the guy, I wouldn't waste my breath on it. I am not a big fan of Shamir's and I understand that Rowan's interpretation of Fascism is quite academic and misses many of the subtleties that the Mediterranean mindset I know very well (and if I had time or interest to discuss, could counter many of his arguments), but that does not mean that allowing people to present their views is giving in to fascism and nazism! You give far too much credit to what a comments space does on a blog. It is a way for other people to participate, and not a righteousness contest. I have only agreed almost entirely with Joe, Duck and Umka on things, but I think that is because we are more engaged in breaking down Hasbara tactics than in actually dismantling or analysing historical material, and we are working along a particular line that does not always get picked up in the comments.I also do take offence that there is this opinion here that only men have the capacity to think seriously. I know you probably don't mean it, since two of your favourite blogs are run by women, but be careful tossing around that kind of comment. When you have calmed down, you can come back to play.thecutter Homepage 01.09.06 - 4:07 pm #

I understand that Rowan's interpretation of Fascism is quite academic and misses many of the subtleties that the Mediterranean mindset I know very well (and if I had time or interest to discuss, could counter many of his arguments)-- well. I wish you could find the time to at least sketch your counter arguments to whatever you think I am trying to say - I admit that I am finding it hard to focus my own argument.Rowan Berkeley 01.09.06 - 4:37 pm #

Rowan, I really (seriously) haven't got time in this period. But, just to give an idea: there is a mindset in this area that is quite interesting, (I've written in Italian about it on occasion) and it has its basis in Italian urbanistics and civic organisation. As you know, Italy until the post war was an agrarian society. This is structured in a paternalistic way, (a social platform, so to speak), yet legalistically and culturally, the cities (also intended as States during much of Italy's history) are where the power is - so you see, there was needed a figure (agrarian and paternal, Mussolini, coming from Predappio was almost perfect) who could relate to the "mass", yet who was interested in "progress" (the agrarian reform, particularly). This figure had to replace the king, yet had to represent the complex nature of "uncontrolled urban development" (no urban planning, until that point, no unification of services, and this is why his connection of the various Regni was successful - i speak basically of transport innovations. Now, the Italians are also very independent, and they have a gross defect of disorganisation. Mussolini capitolised on the Italian mindset, and while he gave a sense of "order", which was deep down desired, he also had to "impose" because Italians do not easily collaborate (every pater is a pater familius, you see, and therefore, imposes independently his lex). This was tolerated initially, but it could not last long, because Mussolini played his cards right at the beginning, but he did not take well enough into account that this would become stability. The "idea" of fascism as a progress system was initially accepted in its socialist form (think of Avanti!, the Socialist paper where Mussolini was the editor), but as a permanent system, it could only be enforced militarily, and this is something the Italians cannot tolerate. It is absolutely out of their existential essense. I hope that was enough for now.thecutter Homepage 01.09.06 - 5:16 pm #

ah, I see ... Italians are chaophilicRowan Berkeley 01.09.06 - 5:34 pm #

chaoticists ...Rowan Berkeley 01.09.06 - 5:49 pm #

Yes, Italians have a very particular character which is utterly independent, but having been based for so long predominantly on a binary organisation, it has been hard to bridle them, although many attempts have been made, and none of them turn out "successfully". Mussolini "worked" because he fulfilled the Italian aspirations of progress, but he couldn't last because - besides the deviation of his original promise and the institution of always more draconian and militaristic enforcement of it - the character and history of Italians could not tolerate such a thing for long. I tend to think that Italian Fascism was a much lighter version of German totalitarianism basically accountable to the nature of the Italian people themselves. They are chaotic and they do not stand being made to conform for too long, although they probably aspire to it at some level. I think a social historical perspective has to accompany any study of this period, and it is important to take into account that as soon as it was possible, the Italians turned on Fascism and it was destroyed by the Italian civil war and the Resistance movement. (connected to the armistice, but also, independent of it). Italians do not take kindly to the boot.thecutter Homepage 01.09.06 - 7:02 pm #

Blame me if you like Mary, anyone, but we all got along pretty well until the fascist Rowan closed his own blog and set up camp here.Now he has dragged you into defending yourself against his ideological dictates about who and what Italians are ... all, of course, based in a fascist interpretation (only a couple of weeks ago he was pontificating about the lack of racial purity of Italians).I quite quickly knew where this crippled, wannabe "Superman" comes from - yes he is an even more failed specimen than Nietzsche - but you have marginalized me for having exposed him and for having tried to warn you about what he is up to here ... this crippled Englishman posing as the next "Il Duce".Of course I attack him and I have attacked him in defence of you, but it appears that you would rather fall under his thrall, so so be it.Gerry Hiles 01.09.06 - 8:00 pm #

Goodness me, I'm flattered, I really am. You do me too much honour, Gerry.Rowan Berkeley 01.09.06 - 8:02 pm #

But irrespective of all this let me bring the discussion back to the essential question, which is the Jewish question, of which zionism is merely a part.Italy, in a much more obvious way than Germany, was handicapped by the development of Imperialism, which centred on first Britain and then increasingly the USA.In order to avoid being subjected to permanent under-development, Italy had to find a way of preventing international finance capital from simply turning it into a repository of cheap labour and agricultural products for export, preventing it from developing a worthwhile industrial infrastructure of its own, as would have happened under what we now call neo-Liberal world market forces but was then just called Liberalism.To succeed Italy had to do two things: (1) prevent class warfare from crippling its economic development, and (2) restructure the investment system so that foreign financiers couldn't manipulate it.And this they did. Because they analysed the problem in politico-economic terms, not in racial terms, they did not assume that the cure for the economy was to exclude Jews from it. They simply prevented anyone - jew or not - from either playing the stock exchange, or playing the revolutionary agitator.Rowan Berkeley 01.09.06 - 8:14 pm #

PS When was the last time, since fucking Rowan turned up, that we were allowed to discuss Palestinian and ME issues generally?When was the last time we could discuss anything, without being subject to Rowan trying to bring it all round to his fascist point of view and hatred of the "Left", liberals and lately humanists.Well yes, to the extent I will wear a label, I am a humanist and Rowan has attacked me for that, so why would I want to remain part of a blog which is increasingly being ruled by him?Gerry Hiles 01.09.06 - 8:16 pm #

Maybe this could get things back on track:http://observer.guardian.co.uk/ w...1681720,00.htmlGerry Hiles 01.09.06 - 8:26 pm #

gerry, first of all, I'm not under Rowan's thrall. I've known Rowan for a while, before I even had a blog, and like I've said before, there is a LOT I don't agree with what he writes, but generally, he remains civil and sometimes is even very amusing. I am not defending myself, I am explaining that a purely "academic" understanding of Italian Fascism is not sufficient. My husband's family were extreme anti-Fascists (one of them a martyr of the Resistance) so discussions like this used to be the regular thing. Fascism and other totalitarianisms is not my top material, but I don't mind discussing it from time to time. The case of Italy is unusual and very enlightening, really. You are right, Gerry, We should be talking about the ME most of the time, that is basically the point of this blog. But all the threads go on tangents, and you should know that as much as anyone. As I have said before, I try to not be a policeman. I try to let the discourse move where it goes. It is up to everyone to keep it on track, if that is where they want it to be. I've always appreciated when you defend me, but always been upset when you attack other people (unless they're Iby and the serious harassers). No one can take over this blog, because I'm the only one who can post on it. The comments sections are what people make of it, and there are moments when they are fun and stimulating, and others when they are less so. But don't get upset and you will find that things have a low tide and high tide.thecutter Homepage 01.09.06 - 8:33 pm #

I am quite convinced that unless people understand the current systematic deception regarding the role of Jews* in modern international finance - and in its apparent antagonist, international proletarian revolutionism - they will not be able to do a single thing about zionism. This deception takes the form that the zionists can represent themselves as the inheritors of the oppressed anti-imperialist masses, rather than of the oppressors and imperialists, by exploiting the common ignorance of modern social and political history in general.*(not 'the Jews', as if they were a sort of telepathically coordinated solid bloc, but enough of the most powerful Jews, who among other things can use the rest as pawns)Rowan Berkeley 01.09.06 - 9:16 pm #

Where do they hold their mafia-like meetings then Rowan ?I am all for a collective sort-of class interest thingy, such as powerful US corporation, with the US government as their kind of mouth-piece and legislative enabler (after all these things have taken centuries of human culture to accumulate ways of doing things ie western professions) but to put a slant on ecomics with a specific religious character, within a sort of western establishment, is a bit much.What about Japan - do they have a Jewish mafia, and what about the economic meteorite China, where or who are their Jewish-centric Fat Controllers?joe90 Homepage 01.09.06 - 10:55 pm #

Just like BBC News went from dead Blubber to dead chickens, so too have you fellas gone over the edge. The minutiae of the philosphy of fascism just is not relevant to this blog. Stop mooning. Do something practical. Wash your socks. WRITE A LETTER IN SUPPORT OF KRISTIN HALVORSEN. Get a grip!Kassandra 01.09.06 - 11:50 pm #

Now everybody is at it -- Kassandra, I'll talk to who I want about what I want - I don't need you or anyone else's permission (the blog owner excepted for obvious reasons in this case)- don't tell me what I should and should not be doing -- would you like to tell me exactly how human culture works and then I will know, beyond irrefutable doubt, what it is I have to do to instantly right all wrongs in the world ?If you don't know, don't lecture me on what amounts to the sum total of your own ignorance - I have enough of my own to go around, I don't need yours as well -- and if you know so much about what it is we should be doing to help others, please tell me, what is it I'm not doing, that you are, that is such a masterclass in individual brilliance?If there was something that worked, I would have done it by now, we all would, so there isn't - no such thing as instant gratification when it comes to struggles for social justice, equality, freedom from violence and racist ethnic clensing etc- so step off your self-righteous cloud - this is a blog not a UN General Assembly conference -- and stop using one of my recent catchphrases 'get a grip' - get one of your own, like 'you can put that chicken away Mrs', which I am not using at the momentjoe90 Homepage 01.10.06 - 12:30 am #

Joe: "Get a grip" is a "Valley Girl" phrase, from the 60's, a sub-culture of teenagers in the San Fernando Valley in California. Were you a Valley Girl? I don't read your or Gerry's long meanderings, just the final sentences. I read Rowan because he's concise and amusing. Have you sent that money you were going to send? I doubt it. I don't think you even have a creditable job.Kassandra 01.10.06 - 12:54 am #

ouch she doesent think you have a creditable job now that has to hurt . its really sad to see people fall out but its fun too watchsurfer 01.10.06 - 1:41 am #

Geez it's good to have you back joe - you haggis hunting bastard - I thunk I was in a minority of one for a while.Meanwhile, trying to drag things back from Rowan's determination to subject us all and everything to his fascist in-depth analysis that:"Everything wrong with the world can be reduced to bleeding heart leftists/humanists."Maybe those less doctrinaire might care to view:http://www.infovlad.net/And as for you Kassandra (Rowan in drag), you wrote:" I don't read your or Gerry's long meanderings, just the final sentences. I read Rowan because he's concise and amusing."Rowan concise and amusing? I doubt he has a humorous bone in his body, except for his elbow of course.Well done for telling joe that you don't read anything he writes ... little do you know that Mary regards him highly, almost as a brother ... and even virtual brothers protect their virtual sisters and vice versa.Thus you and your paramour Rowan are in deep shit ... well I hope so.I hope that you are both subjected to the comfy chair and that this blog can return to normal.BTW. Has anyone noticed that since I told Av to back off from attacking Mary ... and to realize where his bread is buttered ... he has been silent, though undoubtedly observing things.In a maybe perverse kind of way; I have ended up quite fond of Av ... perhaps a sentimental attachment to the days when we could all take the piss out of him and when he could call us all "fascists" in return ... but then a real fascist closed his own blog and encamped here, to the detriment of everyone, even poor piat, who Rowan brought with him (and Kassandra?).OK Mary. You say that you have known Rowan for years ... but did you ever, previously, know that he is a fascist (well wannabe) who imagines that he knows more about Italy than you do?I somehow cannot imagine that you ever regarded him as a brother, so why not come on board with those who regard you as a sister and dice the little prick.Gerry Hiles 01.10.06 - 2:09 am #

I see what you mean surfer, except that I don't find it fun ... nor pulling wings off flies, nor blowing up frogs (like GWB), nor killing Palestinians (like Sharon), nor any other sadistic pleasure in seeing people in trouble ... so fuck off. Get your rocks off someplace else surfer.Gerry Hiles 01.10.06 - 2:23 am #

In an effort to get back on track, though this post might run out of web space:A Letter from an Arab Citizen to an American MotherMohammed Zedan, Albasrah.netJanuary 8, 2006(Bush and other criminals talk about our Iraqi civilization, so it is important as Arabs to teach the American people about our love and humanity. For that reason I hope that whoever has the ability write in English informs the American mother, the American soldiers and all the Americans the words of justice and truth. Tell then that we are innocent or we die with pride, and we support all the acts that are carried out by the Iraqi and Palestinian insurgency. We would love to hear that our letters are turned into internationally known songs in the American language. Below is a simple letter written by me to an American mother, it not a poem, purely because I am not a poet. Long live the brave Iraqi insurgency; alone it represents our Iraqi society.)The LetterMadam, have you heard…That I talk about humanity.Talk about the soul.Do you know my Madam?Do you know why I have approached you, specifically, and not all Americans?Do you know Madam that in our belief the Heavens lie under the feet of Mothers?Do you feel what we feel as Arabs?We love others just as you do, we feel pain just as you do, we dream just as you do, and we have our small things.Among us are those that are passionate, and among us are the old… the young that cry just like your young that scream.Among us are mothers, whose hearts are full of love and care,And are happy and sad like all people.They cry at times of hardship… until the tears over flow.They remember just like you remember and forget just like you do.Every now and then, the people in my country die for nothing.We die because we are innocent and we are Iraqi.The prisons are filled with us and we are tortured because we are Iraqi. Only because we are Iraqi.In Abu Graib our bodies are piled into pyramids.And you ask us Madam, who does this to us?It is, simply, the ones who you voted for in the White House.Madam, as a loving mother, who feels the hardship of people,And understands the language of children and the innocent laughter after the cry,Madam, the dead and injured are in the heart of America.They are the ones you voted for in the White House.They are the ones you voted for,The ones you voted for Madam.And record this Madam: We will never ever hate anyoneWe will never ever hate anyoneWe don’t even hate the Americans.Imagine this for yourself.A city in my country, where death calls us,It gets us with missiles … phosphorus bombs…with arrows.You eat and we don’t, and you sleep and we don’tAnd we could at anytime become stranded in our own deserts, whilst the cold attacks us.And your soldiers wipe us out with missiles.As days go by American Jets slaughter us.Imagine the begging of the night,Or the start of day,And starving babies cry, and their eyesGerry Hiles 01.10.06 - 2:36 am #

Well it did not all appear, but ...Here is a challenge Rowan:Subject it to your doctrine that bleeding hearts, liberals, humanists and all protesters against inhumanity is what is wrong with the world.Your doctrine of complete antipathy is, right now, being thrust on the people of Iraq by the fascist Washington cabal ... like Il Duce thrust it on the people of Libya and Ethiopia (don't you ever read history?).I have very intimate knowledge of what fascism did to Libya ... same as what it is doing to Iraq ... yet you dare to come here and preach fascism, you sick fucker.Gerry Hiles 01.10.06 - 2:56 am #

That 'poem' just illustrates my point. The same leftist protest mood that actuates the politically correct version of the palestinian struggle activates zionism itself, when it is wearing its victims-of-nazism hat. Result : total impasse.You can have a thousand blogs like this one, a thousand points of light twinkling in the darkness, etcetera, and nothing will happen. This has been obvious since the seventies, as a matter of fact.Leftism is dead, it has been left behind by history. The people who pay for it to keep mouthing platitudes are precisely the people in power who know that it is an excellent diversion from what is really going on.Rowan Berkeley 01.10.06 - 6:43 am #

here's a way of illustrating what I'm saying : look at the various south american states which are currently trying to break free from the USA's financial apron strings. You can easily follow the doings of Peru's Morales, Venezuela's Chavez, etc., via Tom Feeley's aggregator.Now ask yourselves : what basis do the various journalists have for describing these regimes as 'leftish' or 'leftist', as they frequently do? the regimes are radically nationalist. Now there is no Soviet empire for them to attach themselves to, and given that China is no more 'Left' than 'Right', the usage is simply a propaganda term of art to tell the jewish propaganda machine who to root for.Rowan Berkeley 01.10.06 - 7:52 am #

Wednesday, December 21, 2005


http://newswire.indymedia.org/en/2005/12/830052.shtml Maine tribes meet with Venezuela for low cost heating oil
Brenda Norrell, 16.12.2005 20:38

Praising Venezuela President Hugo Chavez, Maine Indian tribes met with representatives of the Venezuelan Embassy to begin talks on the delivery of low cost heating oil to tribal members.

http://newswire.indymedia.org/en/2005/12/829892.shtml The Biggest Land Grab Will Happen if Tribes Do Not File Claim by December 31!niishinikwe 14 Dec 2005 17:53 GMT

http://sociologyesoscience.com/nextyears7.html pretty big collection on russia (panslavism, eurasianism and borders shifting).

http://www.indybay.org/comment_latest.php = dead, killed, you are allowed 0 guesses as to the reason.

http://robotwisdom.com/drawback/ffoxtour.html (splitcreen view)

"Could Darwinist be the new Marxist?" they asked...well, Marx was definitely a Darwinist, but confessedly not a Marxist.
Anyway, Gould wrote an essay about this issue, I remembered reading long ago...and now found at this website:

Yoshie Furuhashi wrote:>>...All in all, the film's attraction, like Christmas, is>pagan rather than Christian...
"...because it is only Christian men Guard even heathen things."
--Chesterton, Ballad of the White Horse

Original message ---->Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2005 10:22:27 -0600>From: Carrol Cox >Subject: Re: [lbo-talk] Narnia >To: lbo-talk at lbo-talk.org>>

You might try his essay on Addison. (I disagree sharply withsome things>in it, but it expresses one possible perspective very well.)>Incidentally, though I've never read an account of it, Iunderstand from>secondhand sources that he was very into spanking (whether asspanker or>spankee or both I don't remember). Also his _Allegory ofLove_, which I>have never read either as a whole, but if I remembercorrectly his>history of "romantic love" is essentially the same as thehistory Engels>gives. His book on Milton is enraging but still enjoyable.>>Carrol

Eastabrook makes a rare appearance to respond:
His book on (roughly) the pre-modern world view, The DiscardedImage (inaugural lectures at Cambridge as I recall), is littleshort of brilliant. I've insisted that graduate studentsbeginning Renaissance/Reformation studies start with it. It goes a good towards saving them from what a quite different historian called "the enormous condescension of posterity."

http://images.google.com/images?q=permaculture+orchards barely a page worth and only http://www.permaculture.co.uk/erc/book_list.html pretty complete booklist (online mail order catalog)


the lady running the prankquean yahoo group is taking up recording Joycean passages again.
as molliloque goes .. . .as molliloque goes .. . .
this is a very cocky version: http://blog.pulpculture.org. .. which if you are still a lurker in my life, is entirely redundant info

Subject: Ideas... some great, some stinky
For the past week or so I've been browsing<http://www.SinceSlicedBread.com> and there's some pretty amazing stuff there. (Some not so good also, but that's the web for ya.) They solicited ideas from the general (U.S.) public and the publicposted a lot of them. Some are quite in keeping with notions weassociate with ICs. Other ideas are frankly way whacked out. Earlynext month they're going to have the public vote on what they considerthe best ideas contributed. So you might want to get in on that. Butthere's about 22,000 posted there, so you might want to start readingon them pretty soon. The website has both a subject-browse page and asite search feature, so you can seek out the kind of contributions ofinterest to you. The website is also soliciting your comments on anyand all of these ideas. You can post them right there on the website.
The top twenty-one ideas are going to be published in some book and--who knows-- some of them might be implemented by governments or unionsor other organizations. Several people posted ideas relating toworker-owned businesses. There's a lot of ideas for nurturing the useof alternative energy sources too. And there's a lot more. Have alook and plug in your comments. Cut loose!
Merry non-PatRobertson, ken

http://aeonsomniablog.blogspot.com/ looong linklist to dig through, pr(ed)ominently features feminism scifi and reality

http://blog.pulpculture.org/2005/12/17/bitch-gets-mail/ find out what she's not; you'll save time (and it's pretty obvious too)


Tuesday, December 13, 2005

A world full of choice yet most are phony.

Here’s the fundamentally divergent and antagonistic ones: catalog patristic auto mutilations of others and selves or tally up and dole out whole earth permaculturations.

All races have their patriarchal aspects and most cultures do too. The greatest peace and prosperity happened in periods of gender balance, their differences respected and guarded agreeably enough to get them noticed pleasantly across the divide and in its own good hormone fired time to keep the multiplication stage kicking in just right and find that their cultural habits have softly nudged them along to help this hi-lite take and fall into place.

During such periods people understood gold and paper gold (versus tradable/ valued / current goods and services based contractual agreement validity) to be the low trust hi risk type of macho stuff that brought nothing but trouble, secrecy, anonymity and ‘freedom’, the type that reaches and teaches the point of arbitrary dominance (rather than responsive coalitions).

Luckily the latter, feminine, very measured and more malleable types of money were easy and readily available to work with if you had to at all (the old adam in the garden, homestead community and hippy dream gift economy with lotsa handwork and little standardization keeps dying and reviving).

This balance is gone, the males have so to speak, eaten all the females pol/econically speaking, life has been one big bureaucratic serial singularity, revolution and gay parade after another ever since, world wars with butches sending femmes to die for them in it (read about the manned rocket in Tom Pynchon’s ‘Gravity’s rainbow’ for instance).

Ages of unbridled expansion and unsustainable practices like a tad too heavy a footfall caused compaction, erosion, coercion and hierarchy (and I haven’t even mentioned any mono- words yet), but we can distinguish 2 basic strategies, the contingent solid front empire and the spotty network Trojan guerrilla behind enemy lines, pioneering, laying low and doubling agendas, inching closer to the floodgates.

Learn to see the subtle ways patrism chronically seeds the characteristics of coming to harm and keeps things ‘going’ the ancient way or study the industry build up and tension raising ‘economic’ growth spirals which are less local and regional; they come to harm too but alas, halt and start waves of more and more feverish frenzy as they come to arm themselves first, then climax with waste and carnage, curious how the chips will shake out this time.

Sperm principle personified.

“… somebody stop me with the damn prepositions!”

Look, what do prepos have to do with mostly? Location location location and secondarily (pending on more information), direction direction direction; seems like they are properly gendered something money is sorely lacking but that story is for another day.*

Gravity is what 99% of life on earth overcomes to one extent or another. Wannabe extropians and would be planet miners or even colonizers, strong AI believers and all them folks who give me the creeps have got one thing right, we best get our feet off the ground again (study erosion you idiots!!!!), just don’t go too far with it, a canopy is good enough. And that’s where objectification comes in, it ain’t shit and certainly not real unless rooted. And that anchor is what I miss. Go to tsl.com and see its former dictratress (Alzheimer now), a lady with feline looks in fine fettle or full of herself right? After her humiliation in court, the apocalyptic gathering her flock on- and into the bunker episode, her little empire has shrunk to half the size, ‘only’ 6.000 acres now.
The context is the collective side; the bigger picture, the effort to stop patrism. The whore and Elizabeth Clare Prophet, proud and regal, independent but as we put it, not objective enough, too individualistic … .. of course everything else, the former, crystallizes around the latter.
You'd have to wannabe equally unpopular to stop populism.

And by the way, you did misunderstand, I referred to the pic atop Damien’s blog (at the time), using that old (esquire type) trick of cutting away all background attempting to emphasize contour and keep focus superficial (the bane of all ((too extremely gendered*)) specialisms and rote shit).
So, till next time we play .. .. .

I’ve done a post trying to delve into the * called:
A world full of choice yet most are phony.

Friday, December 09, 2005

please send me your panoramic depictions of the moral landscape

this will get you started:


please send me your morality panoramas,

paintings of the moral spectrum

picturing quite the range of races

in, away from and for all ways and walks of life

Tuesday, December 06, 2005

Excerpts from a recent interview with Ward Churchill (by Josh Frank)

Reciprocation of the dehumanizing treatment They have accustomed Themselves to visiting quite universally upon valueless Others is often --perhaps always -- requisite to penetrating the veil of Their delusion so deeply that They, some of Them, will be jarred into conceding that the realm of meaning might perhaps not be reserved unto Them alone, that the Other can never be consigned-was never in fact consignable-to a terrain “outside of history,” that s/he or “it”, too, is endowed with a fully human face.

A longer quote that includes the above: In his Benevolent Assimilation -- a truly excellent book -- the historian Stuart Creighton Miller chronicles a very similar assertion of "radical innocence" by mainstream Americans immediately following revelation of the genocide perpetrated by the U.S. during its conquest of the Philippines at the turn of the last century. This is from one example. From there, you can -- as I have in A Little Matter of Genocide, On the Justice of Roosting Chickens and elsewhere -- trace the record of comparably self-serving denials of reality all the way back to the inception of the Republic, or forward into the present moment. What you encounter adds up to a seamless whole. In this sense, the history of the Euroamerican mainstream has been undeviatingly consistent. As Susan Griffin observes in A Chorus of Stones, "there are whole disciplines, institutions, rubrics in our culture which serve as categories of denial." Put another way, denial is not just integral to but definitive of what Griffin, writing as a white woman, perceives as being the "American Character." And, coming as it does from an explicitly Euroamerican perspective, her perception is both entirely accurate and commendably honest. But here's the catch. Who does Griffin mean by "our" when she refers to "our culture," the one she describes as being so pathologically afflicted with denial? Black folk? Brown? Those of Asian or Polynesian descent? How about American Indians? You see? Even as she critiques the American Character to devastating effect, she frames it -- or perhaps even conceives of it -- exclusively and not very subtly, in terms of her own whiteness. That which is white thus equals "America," for Susan Griffin no less than for crudest of aging Mississippi Klansmen. Here, it seems to me, we find the pulsating heart of white racism. In its essence, it consists of the presumption that anyone Other than white holds meaning -- hence, value -- only in relation to whiteness, a dominion in which, in and of themselves, unwhite "others" possess no meaning or value at all. Often, as I suspect is the case with Griffin, the attitude is so deep-set as to operate well below the level of awareness, and is therefore intractable. So subliminal is the mindset at its core that, confronted with evidence of her own display of it, Griffin would no doubt seek to deny it, thereby consummating the very pathos she herself has explicated with utmost eloquence. I've been working on an analytical essay developing this theme for the past couple of months. Let me read a bit of it into the record, so to speak, because doing so will probably get us to where I want to end up faster-and, hopefully, more clearly-than whatever I might spin off the top of my head at this point. Okay by you? JF: Sure. WC: Okay, here goes: In its most discernable manifestation, white racist presumption appears in its carriers’ assertion of a unilateral entitlement to define -- that is, to “name” -- the Other in terms constructed entirely of utility and convenience to themselves. For those cast as Other, the true measure of white racist imposition is encountered first, foremost and always in this perpetual process of naming: They, and They alone, are positioned to determine who you are, are not, might be, what each station denotes, and why. This is because, so They continuously declaim, that which is knowable is truly “Known” only to Them, or in ways devised and sanctioned by Them, for purposes They themselves approve. Hence, They not only “know you better than you know yourself” but “what's best for you” as well. Predictably, the latter turns upon the perceptions of Those who Know as to what might at any given moment be of most benefit to Them. For the Other, this entails an existence captioned in the language of intrinsic inferiority at best, or, in the worst case, out-and-out existential negation (figuratively, literally, often both). Within a perception of “reality” based in the strata of such presumption, the wielding of white supremacist prerogatives becomes so familiar as to go unnoticed by Those who enjoy them, seeming natural, therefore inevitable, and thus both right and just. Wherein lies the potential for culpability? White supremacism, speaking in its emic voice, admits to none. It is in fact incapable of such admission. Guilt cannot be reasonably said to inhere in being and doing that which is right and natural, irrespective of how it might effect essentially irrelevant Others. Within the psychoconceptual parameters by which they are established, whiteness and its attendant privileges comprise their own justification. By the terms of its very existence, then, the cognitive structure of white racism denies even the possibility that genuine empathy, less still such sentiments as regret or remorse, might be extended beyond the pale of itself. Only the most forceful of etic intrusions are sufficient to disrupt the fantasies of innate superiority and concomitant entitlement to possession of all and everything entertained at the most primal level as a conception of Self by Those infected with the mass psychosis of white racism. Reciprocation of the dehumanizing treatment They have accustomed Themselves to visiting quite universally upon valueless Others is often --perhaps always -- requisite to penetrating the veil of Their delusion so deeply that They, some of Them, will be jarred into conceding that the realm of meaning might perhaps not be reserved unto Them alone, that the Other can never be consigned-was never in fact consignable-to a terrain “outside of history,” that s/he or “it”, too, is endowed with a fully human face. The jolt of such cognition, however momentary, produces a series of aftershocks: recognition that the life and fulfillment of a brown-skinned child is just as “important” --which is to say “worth” every bit as much -- as that of a white-skinned child, for instance. Thence, it will be all but invariably admitted that the Other is, or might yet become, “just as good as We are.” Promising on its face, this supposedly “enlightened acknowledgement” is actually the most cynical of white supremacist ruses, evading as it does the very possibility that whiteness might reduce to the signification of anything other than “goodness”, thereby reasserting its station as the condition to which all Others can/should/must aspire. It is thus no more than a reaffirmation of white supremacism, albeit in a form clad in the soft trappings of liberal sophistry rather than the fundamentalist armor of “conservatism”. For the instant of cognition generated by an exemplary act of reciprocation to produce a different result, it is necessary that the intervention be continued with equal force, but in another manner, one expressly designed to increase rather than alleviate cognitive dissonance within the status quo. This is to say that the Other must seize the moment of Their greatest cognitive disarray to (re)claim the all-important power of definition; that is, to call what has just happened by its right rather than Their preferred name and, in the process, bestow the correct name upon Them. To clarify: The Other cannot be content with liberal concessions as to her/his/their basic humanity; it is essential that They be forced to confront and ultimately confess the implications of what They, in their whiteness, have done-are in fact still doing-to fully human but unwhite Others.

. It's worth mentioning that Richard Oxman immediately responded with a line-by-line demolition of Albert's attempt at extending blanket exoneration to those I've referred to as "little Eichmanns." The same basic formula has been employed by so many pundits on the white left over the past few months that it's become seriously boring. Dare I call it "hackneyed"? Now, contrast this sort of "support" to that articulated by Mumia Abu Jamal when he wrote that I not only have the right to say what I've said, but that I've been analytically correct in saying it. Or Yuri Kochiyama's public statements repeatedly comparing my circumstances to those of Malcolm X. Or the Seneca writer Scott Richard Lyons' powerful affirmation of my work -- and of me personally, for that matter -- in Indian Country Today. Or the sheer force of Haunani-Kay Trask's and Kathleen Cleaver's declarations in my behalf. Or Rafael Renteria's commentary, "Ward Churchill and White America," in which he advises those signified by Albert and Shapiro to "look in the mirror" for a full-face view of racial chauvinism at play. I could keep going, but I think you get the drift.

Tuesday, November 22, 2005

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professional aggressors carry on destroying their societies

http://newswire.indymedia...828373.shtml Sleepwalking through slaughter: on the western media's concealment of crimes against humanity David Wearing is a regular contributor to UK Watch and Information Clearing House. He is also author of the website The Democrat’s Diary democratsdiary.co.uk :::::: piet: I'm only posting the footnotes here:

(1) On the illegality of the use of white phosphorus see George Monbiot’s letter to the Times, plus commentary, on the Medialens message board 17 November 2005 (boardhost.com/medialens/msg/..).

On the Iraqi government interior ministry’s torture chambers, see “Abuse reports fuel Iraqi tensions”, Jim Muir, BBC News website, 16 November 2005 (http://news.bbc.co.uk/.. ).

On the use of death squads see “Frontline police of new Iraq are waging secret war of vengeance”, Peter Beaumont, The Observer, 20 November 2005 ( http://observer.guardian.co.uk/.l) . As the Washington Post reported, these militia are often “trained and equipped by the United States and Britain”. See “Militias on the Rise Across Iraq”, Anthony Shadid and Steve Fainaru, Washington Post, 21 August 2005 (washingtonpost.com/.. ). The use of paramilitary death squads by the new Iraqi government follows in the best traditions of US-backed client regimes in the third world, particularly in Latin America. For background, see the website of the pressure group “School of Americas Watch” (soaw.org/ ) and, for the results of the School’s education, see chapter 2 of Noam Chomsky’s “What Uncle Sam Really Wants”, 1993 (zmag.org/chomsky/..).

(2) “Mouse Journalism is the only way we can report on Iraq – Fisk”, Matthew Lewin, Press Gazette, 13 October 2005, (pressgazette.co.uk/article/. ).

(3) “From Baghdad: a Wall Street Journal reporter’s email to friends”, Farnaz Fassihi, Common Dreams, 30 September 2004 (commondreams.org/.. ).
“The End of News”
, Michael Massing, The New York Review of Books, 1 December 2005.

(4) “US forces ‘out of control’ says Reuters chief”, Julia Day, The Guardian, 28 September 2005 (guardian.co.uk/..).

(5) Although Mark LeVine, professor of modern Middle Eastern history at the University of California, recently pointed out that, whilst the anarchy in Iraq is widely assumed to be an unmitigated disaster for the occupiers, one should not be blind to the benefits they may accrue from, or their willingness and ability to take advantage of, the lawless situation as it stands. See “Where Chaos is King”, Mark LeVine, TomDispatch, 25 October 2005 (tomdispatch.com/..).

(6) “White phosphorus: weapon on the edge”, Paul Reynolds, BBC News website, 16 November 2005 ( http://news.bbc.co.uk/.. ).

(7) “’Unusual weapons’ used in Fallujah”, Dahr Jamail, Dahr Jamail’s Iraq Dispatches, 26 November 2004 (dahrjamailiraq.com/hard_news/.. ).

(8) “US used banned weapons in Fallujah – Health Ministry”, al-Jazeera, 3 March 2005 (aljazeera.com/..d=7216).

(9) “Diving into Falluja”, Nick Welsh, Santa Barbara Independent, 17 March 2005 ( http://www.independent.com/cover/Cover956.htm ).

(10) “Stories from Fallujah”, Dahr Jamail, Dahr Jamail’s Iraq Dispatches, 8 February 2005 ( http://dahrjamailiraq.com/weblog/..).

(11) “The Generals love Napalm”, David Cromwell, ZNet, 30 March 2005 ( zmag.org/content/..7555).

(12) “Chemical Weapons Used in Iraq”, George Monbiot, UK Watch, 15 November 2005 (ukwatch.net/article/1194).

(13) “Bringing out the Dead”, George Monbiot, Monbiot.com, 8 November 2005 (monbiot.com/../ ).

(14) “Burying the Lancet – Part One”, Medialens, 6 September 2005 (ukwatch.net/article/983 ).
“Burying the Lancet – Part Two”
, Medialens, 6 September 2005 (ukwatch.net/article/985 ),
“Burying the Lancet – Update”
, Medialens, 12 September 2005 (ukwatch.net/article/1009).

(17) Fassihi, “From Baghdad: a Wall Street Journal reporter’s email to friends”. Lewin “Mouse Journalism is the only way we can report on Iraq – Fisk”.

(18) “Falluja’s Health Damage”, Miles Schuman, The Nation, 24 November 2004 (thenation.com/..).

(19) For example, on Fallujah, see “Remembering the First Siege of Fallujah”, Omar Kahn and Dahr Jamail, ZNet, 14 February 2005.

On Haditha and al-Qa'im, see “Censoring the Carnage”, Antiwar.com, 24 June 2005, (antiwar.com/jamail/?articleid=6425).

(20) “Secret MoD Poll: Iraqis support attacks on British troops”, Sean Rayment, 23 October 2005, The Daily Telegraph (http://telegraph.co.uk/..). On the occupation being the principal cause of most of the violence in Iraq see my “How to Withdraw from Iraq”, 17 October 2005, UK Watch (ukwatch.net/article/1091).

(21) “Don’t Betray Iraq”, Leader, The Observer, 20 November 2005 (observer.guardian.co.uk/.. ), “Signposting the Exit”, Leader, The Guardian, 21 September 2005 (guardian.. ), Ann Clwyd was speaking on BBC Newsnight, BBC 2, 17 November 2005. Transcript via Medialens website at medialens.org/forum/..

Sunday, November 13, 2005

Rowan needs a secretary

he either
a: can't be bothered with posterity
b: has a low opinion of himself
c: scatters himself thin knowing well his are heady and dense doses

some samples:

Latin America wakes to alternatives (Znet-Pilger-longish)

America is daring the rest of the world to burst their credit bubble. China is trying to find a risk-free way of doing this. Iraq is a mere pawn in the oil game, and to some extent in the zionist game, which America tends to bandwagon upon ideologically speaking. Europe is immune to this zionist bandwagon game, but not to the fear that it is going to be "swamped with immigrants" (this is the universal fear of regions targetted by neo-liberal international labor migration policies, i.e. the wealthy areas, and corresponds to the fear of poorer regions that they will lose their workers, their land, and their resources, and starve to death). Russia : aha ... who can read the depths of the Slavic Soul??
Money is credit (not debit) so its value is a product of mass psychology, hence the games above.
Religion is a degenerate form of yoga.
If America was a democracy it would choose fascism, but it

would pay people to describe it as democracy. Come to think of it ...
Other systems - I think I just covered that in my democracy section.

Between 18 and 20 a woman is like China, half discovered,

half wild, naturally beautiful with fertile deltas.

Between 21 and 30 a woman is like America, well developed

and open to trade especially for someone with cash.

Between 31 and 35 she is like India, very hot, relaxed and

convinced of her own beauty.

Between 36 and 40 a woman is like Europe. Gently aging but

still a warm and desirable place to visit.

Between 41 and 50 she is like Iraq, lost the war - haunted

by past mistakes. Massive reconstruction is now necessary.

Between 51 and 60, she is like Russia, very wide and

borders are unpatrolled. The frigid climate keeps people away.

Between 61 and 70, a woman is like Mongolia, with a

glorious and all conquering past but alas, no future.

After 70, they become Afghanistan. Most everyone knows

where it is, but no one wants to go there.

Edited by - Ernie Lynch on 02/10/2005 13:21:05

Rowan Berkeley. A refreshing dare. You strike one as one

whose answer to what came first the chicken or the egg

would say its actually the rooster. A select few would

dare to give that answer. By the bye is the Tony man for real?

newscentralasia.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=1134 Letter to the Editor --
Variants of Turkism -- Rowan Berkeley ---
Dear dangerous zionists, say after me: 'look ma, no blood'

halfway october
another check drawn on the power of dark intimation triggered by the holy hollow cause pr manifacturation; 'Gorby' slandering Rowan, after all, I think Rowan would think, like I do, that secession is much like the blessing for necessary mainstay: puttings in places as size reduction is for rock baking in the sun but not slaking in the rain for lack of that perfectly bloodless solution (exactly the sort of ones that cause the zionists to preclude they 'stir up hatred', never fails, as Gorby proves a ways down after the host of the comment by Gorby returns the ball for a point):

It's actually you who is attributing sinister motives to
Israel's detractors. You're just a basic liar and smear
merchant - nothing sinister about that. In fact it's dead
common among zionists.

Regarding your comments on Rowan Berkeley he stopped
posting comments to Lenin's Tomb and to here precisely
because he was earning disapprobation on both sites.
Frankly, I didnt follow that stuff about De-onto-whatsit
and I still dont know what it means. But to use one
persons comments on a blog to smear all anti-zionists -
and don't pretend you didn't do that - is as cheap a shot
as any fired from the zionists' "intellectual" arsenal.

And it's haloscan that notes the IP address.

One question (well a cluster of questions) - as a watchdog
against obscure manifestations of racism, do you have time
to combat the more overt forms, like say, zionism? And if
you do, what name do you use? And where do you do it?
Mark Elf | Homepage | 10.15.05 - 11:26 am | #

http://kurtnimmo.com/?p=20 2 rowan comments and 6 comments on rowan (I swung by this item a few weeks ago)

This rasputin article link is pretty brilliant, though it

seems to be based on Webster Griffin Tarpley’s new book,

“Synthetic Terrorism”, which I suppose I should try to get

hold of. Now Tarpley, like Larouche, holds to a theory of

’synarchism’ which I find frankly absurd, namely, that

Likud Zionism is an equal partner with top-down Nazism in

running the NWO. I have simplified this equation by

leaving out other Zionisms than the Likud one (which after

all did start out as an ally of Mussolini, so that much is

known) and also leaving out non-top-down Nazism (i.e. all

the non-ruling-class white power organisations, which are

basically diversionary, except in so far as they may

provide patsies - just like the corresponding far left

groups). BUT, even having said all that, I still think the

idea that any sort of Jew is in bed with any sort of Nazi

is a priori somewhat absurd - Mussolini’s early

philo-judaic form of fascism is a mere anomaly in the

light of the broader and now incontrovertible antagonism

between Jews and Nazis worldwide.

for all you girls creamin your panties as your head soaks up the lucubrations of more dearly beloved by the lawful letterlayerer Rowan I have some bad news:

Rowan Berkeley
Location:London, England, United Kingdom
I'm lucky - owing to a mild but painful spinal injury and thanks to the generous state disability benefit system in the UK I don't have to work. So I cruise the web all day and try to assemble the Big Jigsaw.

a WayBackMachine copy

nationalanarchist.com/importance.html seem to have missed this one so far (pretty substantial ((as these google searches for his tediously small but cast far and wide comments and dialogues go)) altercation)

# Rowan Berkeley Says:
October 13th, 2005 at 11:13 pm

Better than taking back the word ‘liberal’, would be grasping the fact that the two terms ‘liberal’ and ‘conservative’ have had their meanings switched around over the last hundred years or so. ‘Liberal’ actually means, let capitalism and the market have their way. ‘Conservatism’ means, hold something back from subjection to the market, call it what you will, the commonweal or something.

haaretzdaily.com/hasen/.. here's economical way of formating stuff if you are after only one in a million commenters, you get only his to this: haaretzdaily.com/hasen/pages/ShArt.jhtml?itemNo=626277 Title The Conspiracy Theory Of Intelligent Design
Name: Rowan Berkeley
City: London State: England
This will sadden Paul, I know, but I am sure it`s the real explanation : the dispute between (ostensibly) christian creationists and (historically) jewish secularists in american education and law is a gigantic red herring intended to distract attention from the actual jewish affiliations of the bush regime.

There is something in Matthew's article that confuses me. He says:
"While the United States became increasingly bogged down in Iraq, the Iranian position was strengthened as anti-American sentiment rose throughout the region and it became increasingly unclear that military action would be taken. The Iranian nuclear program has proceeded apace - or even been accelerated - while the neocons fell from favor and Rice returned to her realist roots. She brought Robert Blackwill, her former boss in the first Bush administration's National Security Council, onto her staff and charged him with wresting control of Iraq policy away from the Pentagon. At this Blackwill, who favors engagement with Iran, has been successful. Paul Bremer was wooed away from the neocons, dropped his support for Ahmed Chalabi, and the American Enterprise Institute and other neocon strongholds are now seething with discontent about the outcome of their venture."
---But surely Chalabi is being accused of feeding intelligence to Iran, of endevouring to act in Iran's interest as that interest is perceived by Iranian intelligence itself, of being in effect an Iranian mole within the neocon cabal. In what way is Bremer cutting him loose supposed to illustrate a more 'realist' (i.e. negotiatory) position vis-a-vis the Iranian power elite, then?

Let me just reiterate my question : if Chalabi was an Iranian agent within the neocon cabal, then how does getting rid of him assist the 'realists'? Surely, if he is Iran's man in the theatre, then keeping him would be the best way to spite the neocons, who were totally fooled by him to their great cost and embarrassment.

To address the question you are all talking about, it might be worth looking at the usually sensible Uzi Benziman in Haaretz, who has fallen rightly or wrongly for the CFR line. I have much graver doubts about it, but people like Ian Lustick support it. It holds that evacuating the west bank, or at least some of it, is still feasible, that Sharon can be made to do it, and that this will defang the entire middle eastern conflict. Pollyanna-ish, but there it is. Perhaps what is really at issue here is a symbolic de-escalation of Israeli aggression in the region, if I can put it that way.

There is a question of practicality here. If Mr Gedanken wants to engage in pre-emptive strikes against the potentially dual-use nuclear facilities of countries hither and yon, he is going to have to factor in the known effect of this which is that all such countries will accelerate their nuclear programs and the said targets will in fact multiply. Now, to target a proliferating set of proliferators he has to trade off accuracy and selectivity of strikes against rapidity and number. In other words, he has to plaster the planet with RNEPs. Not too smart really. He would be better advised to grasp the fact that Israel, unlike your average country, is a partially failed colonial enterprise analogous to apartheid-era South Africa. Israel itself is the 'head of the snake' of proliferation, as should be obvious really if one was not blinded by the fashionable American religion of Holocaustianity, which sees absolutely everything through Spielbergian eyes.

"US analysts estimate that Russian military expenditures have tripled during the Bush-Putin years, in large measure a predicted response to Bush administration bellicosity. On both sides, nuclear warheads remain on hair-trigger alert. The Russian control systems, however, have deteriorated. The dangers ratchet up with the threat and use of force.

As anticipated, US military plans have provoked a Chinese reaction as well. China has announced plans to "transform its military into a technology-driven force capable of projecting power globally by 2010," Boston Globe correspondent Jehangir Pocha reported last month, "replacing its land-based nuclear arsenal of about 20 1970s-era intercontinental ballistic missiles with 60 new multiple-warhead missiles capable of reaching the United States."

China’s actions are likely to touch off a ripple effect through India, Pakistan and beyond. Nuclear developments in Iran and North Korea, also in part at least a response to US threats, are exceedingly ominous. The unthinkable becomes thinkable.

In 2003, at the UN General Assembly, the United States voted alone against implementation of the Comprehensive Test Ban Treaty and alone with its new ally India against steps toward the elimination of nuclear weapons."